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Jinker - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:12 AM
Post subject: Donations for a new server

Hello Oberinites,

As I talked to Stefan this morning we both agree that tough times call for tough measures. So we will be opening up a t-shirt store and accept donations to get a new server and help with the costs that goes into running Oberin. Not forever, but just for a few months or until I can offset the cost of a new server. I'm planning on buying the server as soon as I get my new credit card. New credit card you ask? Yes, someone was using my card to rack up charges on my account so I had to cancel that card and request a new one and it hasn't arrived yet. :\ I hope to order the server as soon as I get my new card, which they said would arrive at the end of the week. This week.

I want to make this clear. None of the money collected will be for my personal use, 100% will go towards Oberin.

So how does this all work?

I opened up a t-shirt and merchandise store this morning using ShirtCity.com and I made a few basic designs with more to follow. How this works is ShirtCity handles the printing and shipping, they charge a set amount for the item and printing then allow the client to set the profit amount. For example, a t-shirts is priced at $18, they sell for $22 so the $4 is sent to my account and I receive a check by mail at the end of each fiscal quarter.

There is also a link to AlertPay® if you want to make a donation. The donations are preset at $5 and you need a credit card to make a donation. I was going to use PayPal but they only allow 5 transfer per year before I would need to sign up for a business account and I don't comfortable with PayPal having access to my bank account nor do I want to open a separate bank account.

Go here to make a donation or to purchase an Oberin t-shirt.

Thank you.

Ariki - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:25 AM
Post subject: RE: Donations for a new server

Sweet!!!

Cassandra - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:28 AM
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Hooray!!!
*breaks the small pink pig that holds her money*

Gwaewiel - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:31 AM
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I think I've never been so happy to give away money :9

I want a shirt with "I <3 Clerics" ^,^

Iceane - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:35 AM
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Wasn't the T-Shirt with the ZZZ on it my idea? Razz

Quote:

Aug 07, 2008 - 09:32 PM- I'd get a shirt to wear to bed that has the afk bubble on it.

zZz..

Glad you used it Smile

Anyway yeah. I think I saw you said you can use Debit too, so that'll probably work great for me, if it takes Toronto Dominion or Credit Union. My cards say Interac on the back of it, so yeah..

Ariki - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:42 AM
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haha, I was saying over AIM how i want that shirt as well Razz

Stryker - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:44 AM
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The G-Strings don't come in my size. ><

Sincerely,
Lord Stryker
The Courtless Pole Dancer

p.s. I got an idea to reduce overhead. Why not sell white T-shirts and tell everyone they have a picture of a Blink Hound on them?

Cyric - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:53 AM
Post subject: There is hope!

Wooot! We all can get excited and stop taking our anti-depressant pills!
Buy the store people buy the store!

*edit*

LMAO ROFL Styker! (on both comments)

Iceane - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:59 AM
Post subject: RE: There is hope!

I thought the Teddy was cute too. But I can't see myself buying one to support Jinks, I would just donate. I have so many stuffies. Want proof? Follow my Siggy directions.

Cassandra - Oct 03, 2008 - 07:01 AM
Post subject: RE: There is hope!

I want a *bol flas * lighter!

Ariki - Oct 03, 2008 - 07:02 AM
Post subject: RE: There is hope!

I did what you said Iceane... wow, i though my sock pupet movie was... sad...

But back to the donations!
I am going to buy T-Shirts and donate Very Happy

Linza - Oct 03, 2008 - 07:13 AM
Post subject: RE: There is hope!

I know what my family is getting for Christmas this year!!!!

Gandalfo - Oct 03, 2008 - 08:22 AM
Post subject: RE: There is hope!

Thanks Dave!

I appreciate you letting us help. FWIW, I think you did good. Oberin has added so much fun and stuff to my life over the past few years, I am thrilled to be able to do something to give back to the Oberin community.

peace out,
Gandalfo
Wizard of the Three Paths

p.s. I want the t-shirt with "Oberin" spelled out in big letters to promote Oberin. Sadly, it's only available in women's t-shirt. If this is an easy fix, please do it. Otherwise, forget it

I'll buy something else.

Jinker - Oct 03, 2008 - 08:22 AM
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I received this email and I don't know who sent it so I will answer it here.

Quote:

Hi, Jinker.

I would like to get some clarification from you, if I may, regarding
the funds for the replacement Oberin server:

1. You are going be receiving a credit card shortly. Once you have
it, you will use it to purchase a used Mac to host Oberin in short
order. This means you will end up with either a balance on your
credit card account plus interest for however long that balance
remains, or a hole in your personal finance the size of that used
Mac. Which will it be?

2. You are then going to use the proceeds and donations to either pay
off the balance + interest or fill the said hole over time, right?

3. Would you please outline to the community the approximate specs and
cost for the machine you have in mind, and then the actual specs and
cost once you have it in hand?

4. As the proceeds and donations come in over time, will you report
back on how much progress we are making as a community on a regular
basis?

Thanks!

1&2. It will be the latter, it will put a hole in my finances and the donation money will fill that hole. But once the hole is filled, the donations will stop. No interest charges at all, and if there were I would not use donation money to pay it off.

3. The specs for the Mac is a G5 1.6 Ghz, 2 GB RAM and it's $499. Once I have enough to cover the cost of the server, the donations will be closed. If there is any excess money left over it will go towards my internet Cable bill.

4. I will indeed. And like I said above the donations will end, it's not a forever type of thing.

I hope that helps Smile

Stryker - Oct 03, 2008 - 08:49 AM
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In other words...

Official Oberin Merchandise is available for a limited time only. After it's gone, it's gone.

So, like Warren Buffet told the United States Congress... "It's an investment not a bailout!"

Except this time it will be true!

Sincerely,
Lord Stryker
The Courtless Jester

p.s. Have you thought about any Wedgie Liability Disclaimer vis-á-vis these thongs? *scootches a bit uncomfortably in his seat*

Satyricon - Oct 03, 2008 - 10:11 AM
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Wish I could donate :/

Ariki - Oct 03, 2008 - 10:22 AM
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Ok, so i better buy a mug as well? Razz

Flingee - Oct 03, 2008 - 10:27 AM
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Yeah finally the community can help! =)

haha good shop Jinker...but i wonder who will buy the "Women’s String Thong" lol

The dragon looks more cute as dangerous

Cyric - Oct 03, 2008 - 11:00 AM
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okay stryker, you are officially an oberin comedian, you are cracking me up.

solsra - Oct 03, 2008 - 11:43 AM
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The teddy bear is going to my friend who collects them and the tshirt is going to my baby who shall be henceforth named Sir Jinkerforth VonCyric DeBardinius Clementiyn the Hauns. I'm going to have to make sure my husband isn't in the room when I sign that baby certificate.

Secondly: Awesome. Good to finally be able to support the group. Is there anyone I can paypal some money to so that they might pay with their credit card? I'm looking at you Caddy.

Cyric - Oct 03, 2008 - 12:10 PM
Post subject: woot!

Immortality through Solsra!

Alyssea - Oct 03, 2008 - 12:14 PM
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If its a girl, I dare you to name it Solsra

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 01:22 PM
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Hello,

Got my donation done quickly last night and put in my order for a t-shirt and coffee mug right away! Because I AM afraid that the merchandise will dry up...gosh, I wish it would not....

I am wondering if there is any way the store will be left open? I have a feeling we are going to hit Jinker's $499 goal pretty quickly. It would only take 49 of us to donate, then buy one or two things and he'd be at his required total.

Maybe this idea can be pondered. Smile

If not, I have to go back to the store! Quickly!

Synnove

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 01:28 PM
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Solsie? Classic girl, classic! I laughed till I cried.

solsra wrote:

Sir Jinkerforth VonCyric DeBardinius Clementiyn the Hauns.

Is anyone else having trouble getting to the store today?

Synnove

Gawr - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:07 PM
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Just wondering, does this company ship globally?

Kitiana - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:21 PM
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I can't get to the t-shirt store, and I haven't ordered my 7 tho...coffee mugs yet!!!!

Kitiana - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:28 PM
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Stefan - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:41 PM
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It's back.

Kitiana - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:49 PM
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thank you

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 02:49 PM
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Yay! It IS back! The new "listen up noob" shirt is hilarious....

Gwaewiel - Oct 03, 2008 - 03:07 PM
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I want the 'Listen Up Noob' :O and I want to donate! Weeeee! Now I can do something! Now I'm happy! *drinks more coffee and continues to watch Doctor House* Hey, everybody tries to keep themselves busy in their own way :9

Flingee - Oct 03, 2008 - 03:12 PM
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lol Solsra

...Sir Jinkerforth VonCyric DeBardinius Clementiyn the Hauns...

draven - Oct 03, 2008 - 03:18 PM
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I'm new but I'll put my money where my mouth is Smile

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Thanks Kevin, your payment for $5.00 USD has been made to Dave Jordan.
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Jink do you think it's possible to put up a count of how things are going on the fund raising?

Desnos - Oct 03, 2008 - 03:32 PM
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Umm..Yeah, never mind an update about donations collected and the tech specs of the hardware...umm, can we just get a list of who bought the thong?

Yonah - Oct 03, 2008 - 03:40 PM
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I asked my wife if she would like one. She said only if I wear it. Sad

Clementiyn - Oct 03, 2008 - 04:45 PM
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solsra wrote:

Secondly: Awesome. Good to finally be able to support the group. Is there anyone I can paypal some money to so that they might pay with their credit card? I'm looking at you Caddy.

I already used all 8 of my credit cards, Solsra...

Oh wait... was the $5 limit per person? or per credit card? :p

rikumoto - Oct 03, 2008 - 04:51 PM
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why dont you ship thongs to Japan??? ><

Cyric - Oct 03, 2008 - 05:02 PM
Post subject: Keep the store open.

Hey everyone, just to let you know, you can do more than one donation through the straight donation part of the site, just like buying more than one item from the store (asked this last night to Jinks).

Also, here is an idea to keep the store open, after all has been donated for the computer, jinks said that he would put the remaining money towards his internet bill. Why not let the store stay open and all proceeds go to the internet bill? Jinks can lower the profit rate if he feels to much money will be "made". Or, there could be a fund for the next time the computer fails or needs fixed. That way Jinks doesn't have to pay out of his own pocket all the time for repairs and we can still buy the Obie merchandise.

*what if my mug breaks, then what do I do?*

Yonah - Oct 03, 2008 - 05:07 PM
Post subject: RE: Keep the store open.

WOOT

I can go for the bear and get two mugs next year when I have some money. Please leave the store open.

Kitiana - Oct 03, 2008 - 05:14 PM
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Yes, please leave the store open! I don't ever want to have to wear non-Oberin underwear again!!!

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 05:26 PM
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Oh I hope so, otherwise I will have to order Kit a gross of thongs and my credit card will melt...

Kitiana - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:01 PM
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Amara - Oct 03, 2008 - 06:32 PM
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I would totally buy the thong...but I don't know what my mom would think about that ROFL.

Definitely buying a shirt or two though. Smile

Snowons - Oct 03, 2008 - 07:03 PM
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I'm not sure if this site has it or not, but I would totally buy an Oberin skate deck. I've seen where you can do custom decks on zazzle ( http://www.zazzle.com/custom/skateboards ).

valerquez - Oct 03, 2008 - 08:36 PM
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Oberin Thong!

Partay!

Kwesyther - Oct 03, 2008 - 09:36 PM
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@Snowowns: And I thought you meant an Oberin skat deck. Galandir as king of clubs, Tirana as queen of clubs, dead Zexe will be the jack, ...

jairmie - Oct 03, 2008 - 09:39 PM
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do they have man thongs?

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 09:44 PM
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Yes.

But they are made out of gaper parts. I don't recommend them.

Snowons - Oct 03, 2008 - 09:47 PM
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Especially if there is any static left from a *bol flas*.... ouch.

Haha Kwes. Sounds a little like Pinochle.

kyshak - Oct 03, 2008 - 10:22 PM
Post subject: Thanks for the opportunity to give back

Ordered a tee and gave my donation.

thanks for letting us help

Hania - Oct 03, 2008 - 11:12 PM
Post subject: RE: Thanks for the opportunity to give back

wait until my girlfriend sees the underwear i got her for christmas Wink

SIKARU - Oct 03, 2008 - 11:13 PM
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-dances around in obby shirt- woot! all my friends will envy r us!!!

Synnove - Oct 03, 2008 - 11:15 PM
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Which t-shirt did you order?

http://oberin.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=25513#25513

Jinker - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:40 AM
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I know about zazzle.com, and I would love to design a skate deck. I might open an account there. But I have been getting a few negative responses to the store so I want to ask here. Is the store a bad idea?

Meaning, for example, that if you want to donate you have to pay $30 only to donate $5. I saw it as you get to donate and get an Oberin t-shirt, but maybe I am blind. So what do you think, should I shut the store down now and just rely on donations?

Synnove - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:43 AM
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Nooooo! I love the store! If people want to donate five dollars, you have given them a way to do that already!

I don't understand the dilemma...if you don't WANT a t-shirt, just donate directly at the donation page!

Synnove

Ariki - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:43 AM
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The store is a great idea, and i hope you keep it open until i get paid!

I would be sad if i don't get to buy somethng

Sumac - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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I think store idea fine. If people want to just donate, they can do so without having to buy anything. And for those that would like merchandise, they can buy an item and know some of the profit will go towards a new server.

I would add a second donation level, a 10$ one too. Cheaper than a movie and popcorn.

Zabuza - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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DUDE, I so wish i could buy a t-shirt, but sadly, my father wont let me, too bad i don't have my own card =(

Minstrel - Oct 04, 2008 - 02:54 AM
Post subject: I would like a t-shirt that says...

"I give my candy to Luskin."

*g*

And thank you Jinker for doing all this! You're a GoD among men.

JoeP199 - Oct 04, 2008 - 03:12 AM
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Jinker, leave the store open. You've already given those among us who wish to donate directly a way to do that, and now you've given those of us who want a tangible piece of Oberin merchandise a way to get that, too.
And, I don't want to see you shut down the sites as soon as enough funds are in hand for you to purchase a minimal replacement for the dead server.
I, for one, would like to see you leave it open at least until you have enough to also build in some enhanced reliability, possibly through redundancy.

We love you, man.

Snowons - Oct 04, 2008 - 03:15 AM
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I'm with Synnove on this. I see no reason to limit the ways that a person can donate. For those who like chochskies the store is great. If someone would rather give $5 than pay $30 for a shirt or coffee mug they can do that to.

One more for keeping the store.

Stryker - Oct 04, 2008 - 03:47 AM
Post subject: RE: I would like a t-shirt that says...

Wow! Jinker took Synnove's idea and ran with it!

Anyone buy one of the Gaper Codpieces yet?

Check it out!

Sincerely,
Lord Stryker
The 'Haha-I-Made-You-Look!' Jester

Gandalfo - Oct 04, 2008 - 04:17 AM
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Jinker wrote:

.... But I have been getting a few negative responses to the store so I want to ask here. Is the store a bad idea?

Meaning, for example, that if you want to donate you have to pay $30 only to donate $5. I saw it as you get to donate and get an Oberin t-shirt, but maybe I am blind. So what do you think, should I shut the store down now and just rely on donations?

Keep the store up... its a great idea to make available Oberin art on merchandise. Like many people I happily both donated and shopped.

cheers,
Gandalfo
Wizard of the Three Paths
http://www.masteradobe.com

kalasle - Oct 04, 2008 - 04:30 AM
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This is a fantastic idea, keep it open! It could help fund new servers, the shirts pay for the selves, it would make the game go faster, and those who love Oberin, which is everyone, would be able to have it tangible piece. I think you would get ten times more cries of complaint if you closed it, than if you left it open.

Cyric - Oct 04, 2008 - 06:05 AM
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Well I already made my statement before jinks wrote his so we already know my idea ( I hope). So, I'll just say this, though most people like to please everyone as much as you can, in the end you can't live your life or make ideas off the few you can't please (my motto "You can't please everyone").

I see there is an overwhelming positive response to the store. My only complaint is that I wish you had different levels of straight donations, 5,10, 15 & 20 for example. I had every intention to just donate 20 but after the first 5 I then have to reload my account and wait for it to happen before I can donate again and I'm just to lazy about that. I sill will probably buy a mug or bear but would have like to just had given $20.

Keep the store! Buy a mug now, a bear later.

Tiphereth - Oct 04, 2008 - 07:50 AM
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Been away, logged on and I was utterly shocked!

I agree with Cyric, a choice of donation amount would be convenient.

Jinker, you should make your store appear as if it were an Oberin shop, perhaps with a few shopkeepers as well. Smile

Yonah - Oct 04, 2008 - 12:39 PM
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Jinker,

I think Tiph's idea is great. After the new server is in place. PRIORITIES PEOPLE Razz

Flingee - Oct 04, 2008 - 05:01 PM
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*sighs* I am tired with alertpay.com. Neither "withdraw" nor "send money" does work from europe. Is there a european player who donated already? I would love to send money somehow...

Any ideas except the shop?

Thank you
Flingee & Avynar

Lenard - Oct 04, 2008 - 07:27 PM
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The shop has to stay open!! I don't have money to buy anything yet. :'(

I wanna buy a thong so I can have it framed. Just for laughs.

(Friend): Why is there a thong framed on your wall????
(Lenard): I saw it and I just had to have it.

I want a mug also. I would get a shirt, but they don't come in tent. ><

Stryker - Oct 04, 2008 - 07:31 PM
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I think you have to click on the icon that is in the link Jinker gave us. The Withdraw and Send Money options are from Alertpay.com's home website and that didn't work for me either, even from the U.S.A. Click on Jinker's link, then click the Alertpay icon. It lists every country I have heard of there.

Sincerely,
Lord Stryker
The Courtless Jester

p.s. here is the link again for the Store and Donations.

Synnove - Oct 04, 2008 - 07:49 PM
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I used the "change method of payment" link, that let me charge it directly to my bank card.

Requis - Oct 04, 2008 - 08:31 PM
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Darn Jinker, sorry to hear about this. I'm lining up my donations right now. I wish there was "An official GM of Oberin" shirt or a way to give a lot more than $5 easily. Wink

Sorry I haven't been around much. But, I feel like more than anyone I owe the Oberin community a lot.

Kitiana - Oct 04, 2008 - 08:47 PM
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You owe us alot alright....alot of candy!

Ronan - Oct 04, 2008 - 09:50 PM
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Actually in Oberin terms this could be considered a "Rescue".

Ronan

Stefan - Oct 04, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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We managed to salvage the data from the old server, and nothing was lost. When the server is back online, all your characters, guild halls, etc. will be restored to their original state.
The donations are steadily going and we reached about 30% of our target. Thanks to everyone who helped us so far!

insertnamehere - Oct 04, 2008 - 10:16 PM
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Damn, I wanted a wipe just to annoy those who did not want one...

Good to hear that the donations are going well

Brack - Oct 04, 2008 - 10:54 PM
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Keep the store open I say! After you get the server you can quit the donation part but keep the store open. Who knows? If people still buy things even after the server is back up with some money still rolling in you can buy some fancy shmancy stuff to make oberin even better!

Jinker - Oct 04, 2008 - 11:25 PM
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At the time of this posting the total collected from donations and store commission is $201.24!

Wow, 2 days and almost halfway there. Thanks everyone!

Fuoco - Oct 05, 2008 - 02:48 AM
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Well I was very happy to donate - I am enjoying Oberin and its little community and I don't think I shall ever be interested in any other online game. Let us know if you need a little extra help Jinker - 5 or 10 dollars will not send anybody to ruin I hope!

Fuoco

Cassandra - Oct 05, 2008 - 04:42 AM
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Flingee, I couldn't donate either. I bought mugs instead... I thought I could even take them to the library and pretend I'm playing Wink

Flingee - Oct 05, 2008 - 12:52 PM
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I think i did make a mistake. I used not only the free entry of that alertpay thingy. Well must now first delete this account again. Then i am able to send it with this free account (because the card is now registered).
Thanks Fuoco

Hehe Cassandra Smile

But its possible i FEEL it

Nasrith - Oct 05, 2008 - 02:02 PM
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A link to the store and donation page on the Navigation list would be nice.

Jinker - Oct 06, 2008 - 01:09 AM
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For people overseas, be careful of huge shipping charges on the store. When I looked into this company it showed they were based in Atlanta, but everything I get from them is in German... Strange.

Phenoca - Oct 06, 2008 - 02:20 AM
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insertnamehere wrote:

I wanted a wipe just to annoy those who did not want one...

Me too, but only because I have never played Smile

I actually downloaded the client on October 2nd.

Hania - Oct 06, 2008 - 02:33 AM
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we are on a roll!!!!! jinker, if it keeps goin just get a nicer server that will be faster and won't break down easily. might be worth it in the long run Wink

Shogun - Oct 06, 2008 - 08:53 AM
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Jinker wrote:

For people overseas, be careful of huge shipping charges on the store. When I looked into this company it showed they were based in Atlanta, but everything I get from them is in German... Strange.

When I checked the shipping to Sweden was close to 15$. Might be they just have really pricey shipping...?

insertnamehere - Oct 06, 2008 - 09:05 AM
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When selecting Canada as the country to ship to, the price goes extremly high.

The OB Logo plain goes from 26.90$ to 40.36$ that is ridiculously high for 1 shirt, and that does not include shipping...

ChrisMaar - Oct 06, 2008 - 09:14 AM
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Keep it open I say! You can just keep the shop open and make different donation amounts, I want a shirt (maybe a man-thong too... '>>) but I need to pay my insurance first. I say keep it and all the money can go to upgrades, server space, bandwidth, cable (lol), and more! Plus we are finally happy to be able to help keep this great game running! For years its been free and we have been glad to play it free, but now that you actually need the money, take it for Luskin's sake and use it to make Oberin that much better! Plus, you can always add new designs to the shirts and stuff, maybe even make it so we can have our character's picture on it with "Oberin" above it and maybe our catch-phrase on the back or something? I would totally pay like $45 or more for something like that, and even wear it to school (regardless of the teachers...). Also, make a more "dynamic" way of paying so that we can choose our own amounts (min of $5 of course). Cause when I pay off my insurance I can just take a good $30 or so and maybe buy a shirt or just donate it so that you get a bigger profit that way.

Another idea: Get some "famous" quotes put on some shirts. e.g. Soon™

Ariki - Oct 06, 2008 - 09:50 AM
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I cant even select my country on the shop... Gues i will just have to donate.

Synnove - Oct 06, 2008 - 09:14 PM
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Wow, a Soon™ shirt...that would be fun!

It's October 6 now, how are we doing? Have we reached any of our goals??

Synn

Jinker - Oct 06, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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The total at the time of this post it $310.00. W00T!

Thanks again everyone Smile

Edit*

I added a I <3 Clerics t-shirt to the shop.

PS. I like the Soon™ idea Wink

Kitiana - Oct 06, 2008 - 11:21 PM
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Buy more thongs, people! Let's get this thing done!

Kitiana - Oct 07, 2008 - 12:00 AM
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Seriously, this is not a joke. I didn't get one yet and I want one! Please please please bring the thong back!!!

Eleswyr - Oct 07, 2008 - 12:40 AM
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Hurrah! Make that at least $315!

Fuoco - Oct 07, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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[quote="Flingee"]I think i did make a mistake. I used not only the free entry of that alertpay thingy. Well must now first delete this account again. Then i am able to send it with this free account (because the card is now registered).
Thanks Fuoco

Flingee my dear friend - if you are still struggling I can donate on your behalf, no worries! If Jinker is in a position to allow greater amounts I shall donate another 10 dollars for myself and 5 for you... you can buy me a beer if we are lucky enough to meet one day!

I also agree with the suggestion that, if the donations exceed expectation, then Jinker should get better equipment.

Cool

Gwaewiel - Oct 07, 2008 - 12:54 AM
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MOM! MOM! I WANT THE CLERIC SHIRT!!! XD
Awesome! Must. Have. *dances*

Maryjay - Oct 07, 2008 - 01:09 AM
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Hello All: I too think it is a great idea to keep the store open, maybe we could have our Banners added. Would be great to personalize em,cost will be more, but what the heck.............anything for Oberin Laughing

Hania - Oct 07, 2008 - 02:17 AM
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i really need to buy a mug >< once i can convince my parents i will buy one ^^

Flingee - Oct 07, 2008 - 02:05 PM
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Dear Fuoco, planned were a bit more as $5. Now my account is already deleted but my credit card is still registered and i get always messages about "An error occured. Your credit card is already registered..." *grr*
I wrote already to the support but well it takes time.
Please send $5 for me...i can send it to you back by regulary post or by a withdrawal (if european banks withdrawals are easier?).
Thank you for your trust

*big hugs*

And yes let the store open - maybe one day we need more servers for many more players and a bigger world of oberin

I think the shop is a great idea.

Flingee & Avynar

Crom - Oct 07, 2008 - 03:24 PM
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"You want to play you got to pay". Thats true for most things in RL. So I was wondering why there can't simply be a monthly fee to play Oberin? Would this not help those who are running it?

insertnamehere - Oct 07, 2008 - 04:33 PM
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Go play WoW if you want to pay every month for a game

Crom - Oct 07, 2008 - 04:40 PM
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It was only a question. I am sure your piggy bank will not be threatened.

Clementiyn - Oct 07, 2008 - 04:45 PM
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As far back as 2001, the Oberin website indicated that at some point it would require monthly payments to play. But that day never came...

juff - Oct 07, 2008 - 05:29 PM
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Not willing to put money in any shipment so guess donation will do. Would be fun to see some person walking with an Oberin T-shirt in my town though. If i were GM, i wouldn't dare wear GM shirt though Wink

Eleswyr - Oct 07, 2008 - 05:46 PM
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*obsessively checks the thread for updates on the total amount donated*

insertnamehere - Oct 07, 2008 - 06:05 PM
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Yeah, back in 2001, but since then we got a new management and the game is still a beta, not updated frequently because the 2 developpers both have jobs. The last update is over a year old.

If updates were coming as fast as when Stefan and Jinker updated the status of the game from closed to open beta (sometimes it was 3 updates a week, not huge ones but still small ones were fun to have), maybe I would consider paying for Oberin, but the problem with monthly payment is simple to me. If you play for a year at 5$ a month, it is 60 $. If you play 2 years, 120$. 3 years? 180$. 8 years? 480$. That is a lot for 1 game you never get to own.

But I would rather pay 70$ as a one time fee to download the game and have no monthly fee then paying for each month of gameplay. They could even include a higher price for those who would want to have the server application, so we could have a multitude of worlds, but that is just me dreaming.

Yonah - Oct 08, 2008 - 12:24 AM
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*checks wallet* A moth flutters away leaving an empty wallet.

If I had to pay for Obie, I would be but a spirit of the forums. When Beta is done I may have no choice but to curl up in a corner and weep. I do hope it will, but I will miss Obie.

Synnove - Oct 08, 2008 - 12:33 AM
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A onetime fee for downloading would be difficult for our youngsters, and people might avoid the game altogether since they would not have a chance to try before buying.

I like that those of us who are able can donate, or buy things from the Obie store. Smile

Jinker - Oct 08, 2008 - 12:48 AM
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At the time of this posting....

I ordered the new server 20 minutes ago after finally received my credit card in the mail. I paid a little extra for 3 day shipping but I will take care of that. The total in donations and store commission is $393.65! I doubt if the donation button will stay for a full week! Thanks Everyone Smile

Frosky - Oct 08, 2008 - 12:57 AM
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WOOOOO HOOOOOO!

Eleswyr - Oct 08, 2008 - 01:15 AM
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Yay! Now I will just check Oberin obsessively to see if its back up... hehehe

<.< ... >.>

Iceane - Oct 08, 2008 - 01:33 AM
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Awesome, I'm glad the donations worked out great. I even suggest that Jinker should be allowed to buy some candy with that 65 cents!

Angelica - Oct 08, 2008 - 01:54 AM
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Thanks, Jinker!!!! Very Happy

JoeP199 - Oct 08, 2008 - 02:18 AM
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Jinker, keep the window open. There won't be much coming in, but every little bit will help you, and that helps all of us.

Clementiyn - Oct 08, 2008 - 02:32 AM
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JoeP199 wrote:

Jinker, keep the window open. There won't be much coming in, but every little bit will help you, and that helps all of us.

That is not something Jinker is willing to do. If it was, Jinker would have received over ten times as much money as he has. He was willing to accept a very specific amount in a very specific way, and refuses all other assistance.

Add me to the list of folks happy to hear the good news Smile

kyshak - Oct 08, 2008 - 02:58 AM
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Thanks, Jinker, for letting us donate and shop for Obie!

Ky

Flingee - Oct 08, 2008 - 08:15 AM
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Great Jinker Very Happy

Wooot =)

I think the missing gol..eh money will come too!

Cyric - Oct 08, 2008 - 08:37 AM
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woot glad to hear that it didn't take long.. I hope we can push to get that last $100 in for jinks and us Smile

insertnamehere - Oct 08, 2008 - 10:35 AM
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kyshak wrote:

Can I call you anal lube?

Cool news, lets hope that iMac G5 is better then the one my brother bought when they came out, he had to change the power supply 3 times and the motherboard once.

Gwaewiel - Oct 08, 2008 - 03:03 PM
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*happy* Weeeeeee!!!

JonathanII - Oct 08, 2008 - 04:43 PM
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I finally donated w00000t!

Kitiana - Oct 08, 2008 - 07:00 PM
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I'm just happy that Oberin's going to be working again before our little society descends to the level of some of us obsessively biting one another.

Oh wait...

Gwaewiel - Oct 08, 2008 - 07:07 PM
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Lol. XD
I don't bite. I give cookies. FREE COOKIES!

Yonah - Oct 09, 2008 - 12:52 AM
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I don't need to bite.

Lenard - Oct 09, 2008 - 01:40 AM
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insertnamehere wrote:

kyshak wrote:

Can I call you anal lube?

That is not acceptable in this game. I sagest that you watch what you say and how you say it. This game is one big community, and that is a good way to get booted from it. Not to mention the fact that Ky is my one of my favoret fighters. Razz

On a lighter note, yayy!!! New server!!! It will be up before I get home, but it will still be up!! I will miss having a Royal robe and the name "King of Roses" though...

Thanks to everyone and to jinks for allowing us to help. I just wish that I was able to as well. Sad

Keep the store open!!

Fuoco - Oct 09, 2008 - 02:10 AM
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Crom wrote:

"You want to play you got to pay". Thats true for most things in RL. So I was wondering why there can't simply be a monthly fee to play Oberin? Would this not help those who are running it?

My dearest friend,

I would quite willingly pay something towards the game - the problem is, there are many very young players around who would have to apply to their parents, with the results you can probably imagine... so here we have a situation where the younger ones are in the game because it's free - what do we do, considering that they represent the vast majority? In an ideal world, that portion of Oberin lovers who are financially independent could undertake to help with the expenses of running the game but... well, it's very much up to our game masters Smile

Free donations? Keeping the shop open? A combination of both?

Where there's a will there is a way, they teach us Smile

Jinker - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:10 AM
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At the time of this post the total in donations and shop commissions equal $457.81! We are almost there. I think one more day of donations and it will be time to close it down. Smile

Thanks again everyone, you guys are great Smile

Kitiana - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:38 AM
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No, thank You!

Will the store remain open?

solsra - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:46 AM
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Lenard wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

kyshak wrote:

Can I call you anal lube?

Thats funny because she is one of my favorite rangers! *sticks tongue out*

As to the content of what you said: YES YES YES! Thats right!

Also, KEEP THE STORE OPEN! My credit card doesn't get here for another two weeks and I MUST have more thongs.

Hania - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:56 AM
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YEs jinker! keep it open please! I havent gotten a chance to buy a gaper mug yet. Sad

If you don't keep it up, how will I ever be able to drink coffee that tastes like gaper stalks? O.O

Iceane - Oct 09, 2008 - 05:50 AM
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Is there a way to see how much of each item has been bought? Maybe you should post later how many thongs were bought, then post to see how many were bought for personal use and not gifts :/

I might miss being Galandir as well, but, I would rather just get back to sitting at the bank being a tart than having to lean on something to not worry about getting Back Stabbed Razz

I am very glad the store and Donations are working out as it should be.

Amara - Oct 09, 2008 - 05:59 AM
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Please keep the store open for another week!! I really want a t-shirt, but I won't have enough money for a few days.
Actually, I would like it if the store stayed open permanently. That way, if something happens again, it can be fixed sooner. And we get cool Obie tho-I mean t-shirts! Everyone wins!

davonsemris - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:46 AM
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Crom wrote:

"You want to play you got to pay". Thats true for most things in RL. So I was wondering why there can't simply be a monthly fee to play Oberin? Would this not help those who are running it?

If Stefan would leave job and work only as Oberin developer, maybe.

But really, I cant sleep tonight, so let me think over this a bit. Maybe it will make me sleepy

1) I would love to know on which computers people actually play... I tried to bring some people to WoW for bit of fun (not moving from Obie) in past and many times it ended on: "My Mac is too old." So is Oberin relic of past for users with slow Macs or is majority of people (lets say over 50%) on fast new Macs? I think it would interesting poll. Why Im asking for this - if people dont have money for new Mac (and for example Mac mini is easy to buy even for a student if they are willing to work a bit...), they probably dont have money for paying fee for game...

2) Take current donations... Lots of people cant even pay. Like I dont have credit card for paying over net... I dont have paypal or anything like that. For people like me it would be game over.

3) Go play WoW if you want to pay every month for a game. - Nice sentence I found in this topic. Lots of people probably still doesnt know there are thousands of free WoW servers. Some pretty shitty, some good. Its easy to play WoW for free, just have patience and find good free server. There are more free Mac MMORPGs... Planeshift, Shadowbane, Minions of Mirth... And if we would have to pay for Oberin, there are hundreds of MMORPGs you can pay for... I always wanted to try Ragnarok and some others. But Im simply not willing to pay monthly (more than once) for play.

______

Anyway paying for Obie... Obie is pretty old game with slow development and small community. No offense, its free game, its somehow good game (considering community, apart from abusing even game system and apart from all the OCC people role playing) and bosses do what they can. It still can have future (I see it in adding more and more options for players which would make game more and more interesting even although graphic, sounds and music are as are).

But paying for it? Kind of joke. I believe it would quickly end Oberin existence. Of course if you wouldnt hire team of devs and do all kind of wild upgrades. There is already big competition from other free MMORPGs (huge considering the amount of free PC MMORPGs) and if Oberin would step on field of pay to play games... Uh huh. Maybe few hardcore oberians would stay *nods*. Others would stop because they would not be able to pay, they wouldnt be willing to pay or they would move to other payed game.

You can say Jinker must pay for server and stuff... But thats the same with thousands of free game servers all over the world and its not a reason for making players pay (or there wouldnt be a single free online game). However donations and especially store are something different.

This whole is just a hypothetical respond to hypothetical answer of course. Im bit sleepy, hopefully my babbling will make some sence. And I meant no offense, Im here for some years myself and yes its somehow good game.

*murmurs* Remove bad training and change graphic and sounds and music to Baldurs Gate II style and I will pay, yeah...

Jinker - Oct 09, 2008 - 07:13 AM
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Oberin will never be pay to play and will probably always be in beta Wink

davonsemris - Oct 09, 2008 - 07:28 AM
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We know Master Jinker. Smile

We are just babbling because server is off. Dont mind us hehe.

Flingee - Oct 09, 2008 - 08:35 AM
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I agree with Fuoco

And yes monthly payment would push our young players out of the game. I dont want that too.

Jinker - Oct 09, 2008 - 12:29 PM
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I dropped the prices on all the items of the store. Since we are close to the donation limit I will keep the store open for a while and see how it goes. Smile

BTW, UPS says the server will arrive this Friday.

Flingee - Oct 09, 2008 - 01:53 PM
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Woooot =)

Soon™ the server will be ready Very Happy

Gwaewiel - Oct 09, 2008 - 02:22 PM
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Yay! Awesome. *quickly buys a shirt* ^_^

ChrisMaar - Oct 09, 2008 - 03:27 PM
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I think you ought to just keep the store and donation area for good so that we can help you pay your cable or buy server upgrades, bandwidth, memory, etc. Or even another server for backups, I would like to be able to donate at least something to you guys because I've been on Oberin for...a little over two years and have tried asking to help and each time you declined saying, "Just playing the game is the best help you can give." but I'm not satisfied with only playing the game, since it IS a free game, it's nice to donate and know that it is actually keeping a game that I highly enjoy up and running for other people to experience as well. So PLEASE don't pull the plug on being able to help you guys out financially. If anything keep a stockpile for later, or like I said earlier, save up for memory upgrades, etc.

Cyric - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:37 PM
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I agree with Chris.

Crom - Oct 09, 2008 - 04:42 PM
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I agree with Cyric who agrees with Chris.

Kitiana - Oct 09, 2008 - 05:08 PM
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I agree with Crom in agreeing with Cyric's agreement with Chris.

Gwaewiel - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:40 PM
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I agree with Kitiana in agreeing with Crom's agreement with Cyric about agreeing with Chris.

Synnove - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:41 PM
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GAH! *holds head* It has to stop!!

(though I do agree with all of them)

Gwaewiel - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:42 PM
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I agree with Synn about stopping it. :9

Crom - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:51 PM
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I am not sure if I agree with Gwaewiel agreeing with Synn.

Cyric - Oct 09, 2008 - 06:55 PM
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and I... am crying out of laughter.

solsra - Oct 09, 2008 - 09:01 PM
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I am laughing at Cyric who is crying of laughter because Crom is ambivalent about agreeing with Gwaewiel who agreed with Synn that the madness has to stop. Which madness you say? The madness of Gwaewiel agreeting with Kitiana who agreed with Crom who concurred with Cyric who was affirming Chris' opinion.

Fuoco - Oct 09, 2008 - 09:36 PM
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I agree with Chris, Crom, Cyric, Kitiana, Gwaewiel and join Solsra (and my young friend Cyric) in a good laugh!

I would beg the good Kyshak not to shorten her name any longer, in view of the connotations that somebody was wicked enough to point out (I must confess that it dawned on me hours later...)

Above all, hooray for the server being almost there, and I do hope Jinker bears in mind the idea of free donations and keeping the shop going - it certainly seems to be a popular option! I shall stick to donations though - as shipping to Europe is so taxing I think I shall design my own t-shirt one of these days Smile

Long live Obie!

The mad wizard from Trinacria

PS: Flingee - I shall do the deeds tonight for you Smile

Kitiana - Oct 09, 2008 - 09:53 PM
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PS: Flingee - I shall do the deeds tonight for you Smile

Wow, and Gwar is...um...ok with that? You two are certainly progressive!

Flingee - Oct 09, 2008 - 10:30 PM
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*looks in the agree'ing community and agrees also with the agreements and laughter* Very Happy

lol Kiti...

Ariki - Oct 10, 2008 - 06:13 AM
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Umm, Is it me, or has this Thread turned into a spam comp?

After all, this is supposed to be about Donations right?

Cyric - Oct 10, 2008 - 07:23 AM
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Sorry Ariki, it's you, even though people are having fun with being funny, they do truely believe in what Chris said and they all do agree that the store should be left open along with the straight donations so that we all can help in future comp problems and cable bills.

Yonah - Oct 10, 2008 - 07:30 AM
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I agree with Ariki

I agree with Cyric

I agree with my kitty Pollyanna

I agree with my dog Bear

I agr...

Lenard - Oct 13, 2008 - 02:19 AM
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I was wondering, and I thought I would ask because I don't see the harm in it.

How much does it cost to keep the server up and running all month long? I am talking about internet wise and all that. I wonder because I hear people talking about band with, I know a little about how that works, but I thought it was just with sites.

My point in asking is that after the cost of running Oberin all year is figured, Jinks can adjust the donations and store pricings so that he roughly gets that amount. Or at least the store.

I can understand the opinion on the donations not wanted, jinks does not feel we should pay for it, and does not want us to. We should respect that. But, as for the store, most of us would want it to remain open so that we could get some oberin merchandise every now and then. Keeping at least that open could be a good compromise. The Pricings can be adjusted so that a very little amount is taken and it could either be put aside for emergency usage, or put into the running costs.

Cassandra - Oct 14, 2008 - 01:56 PM
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Yay! My obie mugs arrived today! Gaper-coffee.

Now... following Lenard's question, I have a delicate comment. Before I make it, JINKS, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad thing (I'm not even Val).

Obie, as it is now, is closer to a hobby than a job. GMs volunteer, and players have fun. When things go in a way players don't like, they protest and Jinker replies "I'm god and this is not Burger King". From the moment on Jinker would start accepting money on a regular basis, this wouldn't be possible anymore. He would be put into the situation where the players could reply "I pay for it, I want". We are all very nice and none of us would say that, of course...

My point is: on the day we start paying for Obie, the game would have to become a job for the GMs. And in that case, I am very sorry, but to buy a mug wouldn't be enough to pay for their salary. It would imply to rethink the whole goals of Obie and ways to make it fair to everyone.

For Obie, as it is now, I prefer to have a God Jinker having fun with what he's doing, than an under-paid developer. Donations for emergencies, yes. Donations for a specific thing that must be bought for the game to survive, yes. But I understand how to accept constant donations may put Jinker in a hard situation.

"It's not about Jinker, it's about us, the community". Very well and very true. We all wanted to play on a stable server, we could help with that. Then what would be the next project for this community? We can still discuss it, we can still decide to offer ourselves a gift that the gms can use to make the game better. Just not make it regular. I don't see many people willing to buy Obie thongs forever. I think what made this fund raising so successful was motivation! We all wanted to play again - would we still want to spend money if we still can play? Or would this donation thing go naturally lower and lower, meaning that in a month only one t-***** was sold?

Either this, or we can hire Clem as a financial adviser. I am pretty sure she would have a plan to make this all possible. Wink

Jinker - Oct 14, 2008 - 11:06 PM
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How's your coffee mug?

I agree totally with Cassandra. And besides, donations stopped once the new server was up Smile

Cassandra - Oct 14, 2008 - 11:45 PM
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My mugs are great Very Happy

Did your mother enjoy the thongs or did you manage to keep it secret so far, waiting for Xmas?

Jinker - Oct 15, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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Don't open til Xmas Wink

valerquez - Oct 15, 2008 - 02:18 AM
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I'm a wee bit interested to know, with no malicious intent I assure you, does your mother introduce you as her son Jinker, who has all those friends on the internet?

What?!

I mean, I'm still ON topic. It's a bloody valid question.

Fuoco - Oct 17, 2008 - 12:55 AM
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Kitiana wrote:

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PS: Flingee - I shall do the deeds tonight for you Smile

Wow, and Gwar is...um...ok with that? You two are certainly progressive!

Haha! Gawr is fully aware - I used our joint account card as Alertpay do not take Maestro! My friendship with Flingee is a lovely friendship, not an affair Smile

And Flingee - I was a bit late, I am afraid, in making the donation for you but this should have now been received - I do believe our dear Jinker will confirm that to you.

Fuoco - Oct 17, 2008 - 01:06 AM
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Cyric wrote:

I stamp it all with my seal of approval (for what it's worth)!

Let's play and have fun! Let's help the developers when the occasion arises!