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Post subject: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
 Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 04:21 PM
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Peasant
Joined: Dec 11, 2012
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| The title of this post is pretty self explanatory, but I'm pretty confused as to what the Intelligence stat and consequently mana does for Plates. My guess would be that Mana is Stamina, but I can't tell that for certain. Is that actually the case and I'll be able to use more Instant Strikes as a Rogue at some point? If not, what does Intelligence do for Plates? |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 04:57 PM
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Royalty
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| As far as I know, intelligence does nothing for plates. Avoid it at all costs. |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 05:22 PM
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Peasant
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| That can't be right, it's a Rogue's highest stat. It would seem a strange oversight if that were the case. At any rate, how, exactly, does one avoid it? |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 07:41 PM
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Royalty
Joined: Mar 18, 2008
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Conjecture, based on something Laricen once conjectured himself when I was wondering about druid hit points: there was a number of points to distribute for each class when they were invented.
If that is the case, fighters, obviously needed more strength, for example. I don't know how strength and dexterity affect the number of HPs, but maybe rogues' intelligence was the only way to make them relatively fragile, in the combination with other stats (actually, just like wizards).
As for what intelligence is for, as far as I know it's only mana. But then again, I am not very much into game mechanics.
The good thing is that they can RP being smart, unlike unconvincing highly educated fighters.  |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 08:11 PM
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Honorable
Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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Speaking of conjecture...
Maybe consider it a skill modifier? It would be interesting to find a lock just out of reach of a player and drink an Elevate Mind potion to see if there is any change.
Beyond that... I got nuthin'. |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 09:12 PM
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Peasant
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| Hmm, well I sometimes wish game mechanics weren't so secretive. I'm here for the RP, definitely, but I also enjoy delving into game mechanics. Oh well, thank you for all the answers, everyone. |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 11:12 PM
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Honorable
Joined: Dec 25, 2008
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Strength correlates to hit points, as well as how hard you hit. Dexterity correlates to stamina, as well as how often and how hard you critical hit. Intelligence correlates to magic points, and nothing else we know. It is quite possible that it affects spell power in mages, resisting magic, or magic point regeneration, potion effectiveness. It may also have some affect on crafting successes.
One could ask what dexterity does for mages, and get the same answer. No one knows. Most agree on nothing though.
At class 1, every class seems to have 100 points distributed across their strength, dexterity, and intelligence, while gaining around 13-14 points per class level. To keep separation in the classes, you get some unusual characteristics, like highly dexterous clerics, very strong druids, and smart rangers that can't do much, if anything, with their superior attributes.
Stats should govern skills to some extent as Siegal suggests. They might already with melee and archery in a very limited sense. I am very confident that neither elevate mind nor agility affect lockpicking or removing traps in any substantial way however.
As it stands now, the attributes should have a larger affect stat rolls, /str, /dex, and /int. Higher values give higher results. I do understand the current system of it being based solely off class to act as an equalize though. |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 05:25 AM
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Honorable
Joined: Sep 26, 2009
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I did some testing recently - higher dexterity also gave me higher base damage, just like higher strength would do. Having both higher strength and higher dex will give you even higher base damage.
Other than that I have nothing important to add to this. |
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Post subject: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 06:53 AM
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So, there variables on stats at character creation? That makes me wonder if I was lucky or not. I also wonder if stat increases happen. I have not paid attention to that at all.
I also wonder is Strength potions will give me more HP or if Dexterity potions will help with stamina after reading this thread.
Anyhow, about stats, it would be hard to figure it out for sure. We would need to compare level to level. Most of us have anatomized each other at least once, so why not compare real stats and see who won the roll of the die (or if there is a random in stats and increase). Here's mine:
LVL8 Fighter
STR76
INT 38
DEX 76
HP 76
MP 38
AR 2
*Seeing the common numbers, it does seem possible for INT and MP to be a part of the fighter's stamina |
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Post subject: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 07:05 AM
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Citizen
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| Rygarth wrote: |
So, there variables on stats at character creation? That makes me wonder if I was lucky or not. I also wonder if stat increases happen. I have not paid attention to that at all.
I also wonder is Strength potions will give me more HP or if Dexterity potions will help with stamina after reading this thread.
Anyhow, about stats, it would be hard to figure it out for sure. We would need to compare level to level. Most of us have anatomized each other at least once, so why not compare real stats and see who won the roll of the die (or if there is a random in stats and increase). Here's mine:
LVL8 Fighter
STR76
INT 38
DEX 76
HP 76
MP 38
AR 2
*Seeing the common numbers, it does seem possible for INT and MP to be a part of the fighter's stamina |
Stats aren't random. They are the same based on class level.
Dex also helps a small amount against physical attacks. High dex means less damage (Small but noticable) You can test it with agility or comparing druid vs wizard. Wizards have higher dex and take less hp per hit from a physical attack. Though Armor rating is the main thing dex does help especially if you compare a SS bite between wizard and druid.
Fighters also tank slightly better than rangers regardless of GDS because of the higher dex and lower inteligence. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 09:12 AM
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Royalty
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AFAIK intelligence doesn't do all that much for anyone, but I imagine it'd be hard to get rid of it for plates, the lower intelligence spell has to do something
Also, it might be good for RP purposes?
Info on class levels: http://www.oberinrebels.com/data.php |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 11:34 PM
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| Strength and dexterity potions do not help with hit points or stamina. Nor well elevate mind help magic points. Drinking them does not increase your hit points in the stats window. As a rogue, having agility cast on me is quite confusing, since my stamina bar just stops at about 80% full. My dexterity is boosted, but my stamina is not. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 08, 2013 - 11:57 PM
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Citizen
Joined: Sep 15, 2010
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| Like Jedd sedd, higher Agility & strength does more damage. As a cleric if I cast Agility & Strength I do more damage, albeit not much, but still more. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 09, 2013 - 03:51 AM
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Noble
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I am also not sure of what intelligence does, but yes it's true strength and agility allow for more damage. Strength is definitely noticeable in some classes. For instance, I believe when my fighter started training wrestling I began doing damage to rats at level 2, whereas most classes don't do any damage until 3. So any other class with level 2 wrestling, does damage with the added strength boost.
I've played around with intelligence a little bit, I think I tested it with RM and if I remember correctly it did not weaken any of the brackens' bolts or explosions, although the damage was still random as it is now. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: What does Intelligence do for Plates?
Posted: Jan 09, 2013 - 05:11 AM
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Honorable
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| I think it's Dexterity that governs Wrestling. While slapping rats with Wrestling 1, my cleric didn't notice any difference with the Strength spell casted, but he could actually do damage with Agility. So yeah, that makes sense, a fighter's dexterity is equal to his strength. |
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